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30/11/2014 08:50:39
 
 
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>>>>>>>>What is really alarming is the statistics of % of cops indicted vs non-cops indicted - and also the % of convictions of cops vs non-cops. Look at the numbers and it's obvious... WAY WAY obvious that cops are simply treated differently in the court system. Plus if you happen to be a white cop who shoots a black guy, you can pretty much be assured you're getting away with it no matter what.
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>>>>>>>Do you honestly think that if the cop who shot Michael Brown was black, he would be indicted? I personally doubt it very much. I agree that cops are indeed treated differently; but it is the same for black and white cops.
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>>>>>>So you're saying that if a black cop killed a white kid the same way, he'd be off the hook just as easily?
>>>>>
>>>>>I was talking about specific case in Ferguson.
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>>>>Um... the previous message has several percentage signs, which I take mean nothing in a specific case, but rather imply statistics.
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>>>Percentage signs mean something when they come from a reputable source. When someone writes them in a UT message they have little credence.
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>>>>> As to the general question of cops-vs-public, Google of how many cases you find (say, this year) of a black cop killing a white kid and being indicted?
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>>>>Don't even know how to start googling for such information (without getting a flood of irrelevant commentary). So I thought I better ask.
>>>
>>>Let's review.
>>>1. Victor said that white cops get away with no punishment no matter what they do.
>>>2. I said that I agreed but that it is the same for white or black cops; cops get away with no punishment regardless of the race.
>>>3. You insinuated, with your question, that I was wrong and that a black cop would not be off the hook as would be a white cop.
>>>4. I asked to find any case(s) of a black cop being indicted for killing a white person and you said you don't know how to use Google for that.
>>>
>>>I think very highly of your technical skills, knowledge of English, knowledge of Internet and doing on-line searches. You let me down :)
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>>This doesn't answer the question of when police were charged after shooting someone, but the statistics here are interesting (if admittedly incomplete): http://www.propublica.org/article/deadly-force-in-black-and-white
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>>Tamar
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>It's meaningful to put that in a larger perspective.
>Black kids are more likely to be shot by the general population, not just by police.
>http://www.realclearscience.com/journal_club/2013/07/22/youth_homicide_rates_by_race_in_the_us_106602.html
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>Then, we see here that 93% of black people who are killed are killed by other black people.
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dominic-carter/giuliani-was-correct-blac_b_6213270.html
>

And, fwiw, 80% of white people who are killed are killed by white people. I don't have time to find a cite for that now, but it's been around in the last few weeks.

>We can have a good discussion about the underlying causes of those numbers, but if I were a cop working those neighborhoods, I'd certainly be aware of them.

Tamar
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