>>>Yes. That's the one that cops use to justify shooting innocent people, too.
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>Yes, that's the irrelevant comeback armchair critics like to use to justify their antisocial posturing. ;-) If you're trying to say that doctors or policemen set out to hurt people then tack that to your yardarm so we can see who you are. If you're saying that you are an oracle who always would choose correctly- then lets see that also. Otherwise why not participate in discussions re fixing the problem, not the blame?
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>>>JFK had another good one which he applied to himself after the Bay of Pigs fiasco.
>>>"Success has many parents
>>>Failure is an orphan."
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>Not in medicine, especially in the USA where ambulance chasers always try to ensure that somebody always is to blame.
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>>>OK.. let's ban the retrospectoscope. No more trotting out Salk and Pasteur every time some one points out all the nonsensical crap that MD's have filled victims with over the years.
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>The crap I see is the sudden non sequitur of Salk and Pasteur and loaded terminology about victims. Happy to discuss actual issues but a bee in your bonnet is your own affair.


>>Not in medicine, especially in the USA where ambulance chasers always try to ensure that somebody always is to blame


Hmm .. loaded terminology? Ambulance chasers?

How about this fella?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/14/salomon-melgen-medicare-fraud_n_7066336.html

Still think that "victims" is loaded?

Not hard to get a bee in one's bonnet, is it?

Some estimates have put the annual cost of Medicare fraud at $10 - 20 billion. Since I can't submit a Medicare claim myself there is a "health care" provider involved in it somehow.
I've read of rings uncovered who pose as providers and submit claims, and that is part of this to be sure but this fella and his buddies make your "ambulance chasers" look like pikers.