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>>>>>>>Someone saying they won't serve a person or hire a person for a job because the person is gay is no different than doing it because they're black
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>>>>>>>I agree with you. However, that is not what Indiana's "Religious Freedom" law was all about. Many Christians (and I really wouldn't know about that personally since I am Jewish) believe that marriage is between a man and a woman because that is what their religion teaches them. The law doesn't that they do not have to serve a gay person who, say, walks into their restaurant.
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>>>>>>Actually that's exactly what the law said - until people started complaining and businesses threatened to leave the state because of it....which resulted in the governor backpeddling real quick and the law got changed.
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>>>>>>>That behavior is still, by definition, discrimination. It does, however, protect them from having to actively participate (by having to cater) in a (religious) event that they believe is sinful.
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>>>>>>It's still legal to get fired from your job for being gay - and I bet we agree that is discrimination. You'll find that most republicans (or maybe I should say the elected and running-for-office republicans) are ok with this and their core favors this type of discrimination. Sort of brings me back to my original point - which is that they seem out-of-touch with the way the real world is today.
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>>>>>>>You really shouldn't use such a broad brush...
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>>>>>We have a similar thing here with gay marriages. Lots of right wing politicians come out (LOL) against it.
>>>>>I don't personally don't know anyone who has a problem with it.
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>>>>Some reporters starting asking some of the republican's running for president - if they had a family member that was having a gay wedding, would they go to it? The answers these guys provided (although I know at least one simply didn't answer the question) was some of the most ridiculous things you could imagine.
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>>>>> The answers these guys provided (although I know at least one simply didn't answer the question) was some of the most ridiculous things you could imagine.
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>>>If the answers were ridiculous, how about the questions?
>>>NJ's credit rating is plummeting, state employees' pensions are at risk, real estate taxes continue to soar, schools are a mess, there's no money to fix roads and bridges, and these dumb-dumbs are asking Christie about a gay wedding that will probably never take place.
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>>It sure won't take place if these republicans have their way.
>>But yes your are indeed correct - out of all the questions that could be asked it seems there are more important ones that could be picked - but you have to admit it's somewhat important because it gives a person an understanding of where a candidate stands on civil rights - which is a rather significant thing.
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>We've had these non-issues planted in campaigns ever since Reagan discovered the magic of supporting prayer in schools.
>What he thought about that issue was irrelevant for so many reasons that I can't enumerate them but he used it to divert people from discussing his Voodoo economics.
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>George HW Bush's campaign used flag-burning in masterly fashion.
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>I suspect that the right is likewise planting these gay questions to energize their fringe.
>Ted Cruz certainly was doing that with the insurrection nonsense.
>They'll need that fringe based on the quality of the candidates I've seen so far.

That is part of the problem - in order to get the republican nomination they need the fringe republicans on their side. The result of course is you end up with another wackjob. This goes back to what I was saying before about their party being out-of-touch with society (and reality in general in many cases)
Well their other option of doing Obama-bashing probably does not seem too appealing to them right now - the economy is better off now than we he took office - saved the auto-industry - got bin laden - took care of the housing bubble bust, unemployment is down - but then you listen to the republican wackjobs and they say that Obama wants to destroy America. Dick Cheney loves to say that.
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