< rofl > This is _exactly_ the big push I had!
Good luck!

>LOL!
>As soon as I pressed 'send' I thought "hmmm..maybe now that I've indocrinated myself to using surrogate integer keys (which was a major shift in paradigm for my simple brain btw) I should start to begin the shift to using views as well." Sounds like I need to start! Ok, thank you for the push.