>>>What I dislike on Thor is the internet connection. And it integrates to deep for my taste.
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>>>GoFish I have my problems (we had a thread about it, no need to warm it up)
>>>PEM Editor - a thing I never found a use for
>>>Locals - I have my tolls since the days of yore + intellisense (I believe I have download / FAQ about this here)
>>>Super browse - Thor only, also I have a different style of data creation that will not fit into it. (All on CA that will not run without the App) Also I love to create my SQL on my keyboard.
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>>You make assumptions which are totally wrong, You wrote "And it integrates to deep for my taste." The only thing Thor really does, is to create a few _screen.properties. These properties are code executed via Execscript. Apart from these changes, nothing "mysterious" is really going on. And to start Thor, you run only one line of code, "Do RunThor.prg". So if you don't run this one line, your installation remains unchanged.
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>>Your negativeness to Thor reminds me of the people who used to ask "How do I turn of this damned Intellisense thing, it makes me crazy". I suggest that you give it a try. If you don't like it, just delete the Thor folders, and you are back where you started.
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>Funny as it is, as more it is worshipped the more I refuse. Don't know, just gut feeling.
>An I refuse anything that comes with internet as it goes to my dev machine. No, Nein, Njet, Nada, Nei.
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>Let's say I'm comfortable with the environment I have, and I can do enough funny things to occupy my spare time instead of learning tools I have no work for.
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>I apologize if it comes up as negativenes toward Thor - that's not the case. A lot of people have done a lot of great work - but it's simply not my way how to use foreign tools.
>I have a brusque negativeness to conversion. That I will agree.
>I will try to be more moderate
>:)

It's your machine and your environment, so of course you are free to make your own decisions.

Regarding Thor and Internet, I think you misunderstand. Yes, you need internet to install it, and yes, you need internet to update. But you don't need internet to use it, it's up to you to decide whether you want scheduled updates, manual updates or no updates. Personally I have set up Thor to update every Monday morning, a process which takes 10-30 seconds, and which I can abort anytime if I want.

Let me show you one of my favorite Thor tools, the NO dynamic snippet. I have set up F5 to run dynamic snippets.

1. In the command window, I type "no co" and press F5. This will give me a dropdown list of all the classes which start with "no" within all the classlibs in my project and in the MRU list. Likewise, "no *co" gives me a dropdown with every class where "co" is a part of the class name. I select one, and press Enter, This will fill in the complete code for me, for instance

Local lo_urlcombobox as _urlcombobox of _internet.vcx
lo_urlcombobox = NewObject('_urlcombobox', '_internet.vcx')

No need anymore to remember where the class resides, or its sometimes strange name.