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31/05/2015 05:24:33
 
 
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31/05/2015 00:51:44
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., Nouvelle Zélande
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Forum:
Visual FoxPro
Catégorie:
Autre
Versions des environnements
Visual FoxPro:
VFP 9 SP2
OS:
Windows 8.1
Network:
Windows NT
Database:
Visual FoxPro
Application:
Desktop
Divers
Thread ID:
01619801
Message ID:
01620403
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Ryan,

Nice chat, I appreciate.

Please remain aware that 100% of Gartner and Forrester studies that are public are financed by some commercial interest - can't be considered as independent. I much prefer common-sense based reasoning, taking mainly into consideration the interest of the major players in the IT business.
- update: the study you referred to is not free/in the public domain.

Behind the scene, hybrid apps are indeed browser-based; kind of automate the native device browser. And again, hybrid / native arguments need be placed in a business / consumer perspective.

I did check out Lianja some time ago (I dedicate most of my time to FoxInCloud).
What worries me in Lianja is the 'Lianja way of build apps' with pre-defined linked panels, etc. Probably a very smart conceptualization of a business apps, I doubt this model can fit all needs, and concerned about the 'standardization' it may induce, like 'applications generators' once did.

Also, back to my favorite playground, business economics, I prefer the idea behind FoxInCloud, where companies and developers can slide applications to the web piece by piece, layer by layer, without global rewrite, only limited and sustainable, gradual changes.
I've never believed, and will never believe that rewriting a full business application will ever work, unless you suddenly can double or even quadruple your dev. resources, just because of the innumerable failure experiences documented.


>Thierry,
>
>Gartner started saying in 2013 that 50% of apps will be hybrid by 2016- meaning using HTML for display as part of the app, which won't be in a browser. Then at the end of last year, Forrester agreed with you, saying that web on devices will take over from native the same way it did on Windows. ( https://www.forrester.com/Web+Hybrid+And+Native+Mobile+Apps+All+Have+Their+Place/fulltext/-/E-RES61154 ) But just a few months later, observers now say that the native vs HTML battle is irrelevant on devices because most business apps already are hybrid.
>
>Have you checked out Lianja? GUI in HTML5/CSS, language-agnostic interpreter behind the scenes. Seems to me this model is the likely future: separate out the GUI and a cross-platform behind-the-scenes interpreter is easy enough. Look at the complaints about old cross-platform FP and it usually boiled down to GUI glitches.
>
>Meanwhile Google is coming up with new tech like Soli and Jacquard that customers will expect to experience even if their browser is old. IMHO ports of Windows apps are a 2015 phenomenon as customers start to look for the clever features that made them choose their device...
Thierry Nivelet
FoxinCloud
Give your VFP application a second life, web-based, in YOUR cloud
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Never explain, never complain (Queen Elizabeth II)
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