>>If you'll take note, I also don't go around labeling things as "socialist".

BF>I'll probably have more in common with a Republican in Massachusetts than a Democrat in Mississippi.
BF>I'd rather categorize ideas as ethical/unethical, smart/not-so-smart, effective/ineffective than Socialist/Whatever, Conservative/Whatever.
KG>I don't know a true socialist, but certainly a single-payer, national health care system (which most Americans oppose) would be good example of socialism.

If we both agree with Bill that it's better to focus on pros and cons rather than what some perceive as a "kick me" sign, more than happy to see it. It's your example, so: single payer health system: what's good? What's bad? Says who? I know it's a big topic, so maybe start with cost and quality, focusing on (say) the French health system.