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>Sooo it's only worth helping others when you don't have to be the one helping, only when yer getting the help. I think you're proving my point that you've become exactly what you protested against. You've got sucked into the evils or corporate America and you've placed higher values on obtaining material things that helping you're fellow humans.

Victor, I'm curious - why do you specifically think that about Marcia? What specific statements or actions from her leads you to say she has gotten "sucked into the evils of corporate America and places higher values on obtaining material things than helping others"?