>>>>>I have a fundamental problem with someone who admits to using bombs solely for "property damage" (as Ayers has admitted)
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>>>You proved my point by shifting the discussion from Nixon and Kissinger who willfully and needlessly napalmed and carpet-bombed tens of thousands of people to some fumbling boob who couldn't shoot straight.
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>>IIRC the point was invading Nam, for which those 2 were not responsible. They had only Cambodia as new entry, so shifting inside a post of attributing another shift ;-)
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>Point well taken. I should have included LBJ
>Nixon and Kissinger had several opportunities to end it but instead chose to extend it.
>Nevertheless, as you say it was LBJ who first sent in large numbers of troops - a monumental mistake he made with full support of most of his party at first. The defections came later.

Nixon/Kissinger IMO had to steer a boat already swimming in manure. Nixon opening up China is forgotten because of Watergate.