>>>The science is definitely not 100% settled (contrary to what the president would like people to think). Right now, bottom line - there is no hard evidence in so-called "man-made climate change".
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>>Kevin, just ask anyone who has lived in southern CA over the past 60 or so years whether emissions standards are a good idea. No science necessary. They'll tell you that they wouldn't be breathing had emission standards not been put in place.
>>Same arguments from Detroit then.. the science was skaky, etc.
>>Even with rigid standards, some places are beyond the pale.
>>I spent time in San Bernadino as a young GI and fondly recalled white mission style buildings, orange trees lining the streets, etc.
>>I went back about 10 years ago and was afraid to open my car window. The soot in the air there is palpable.
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>Emission standards for air quality are a different story (and I agree with you)

I sometimes chuckle when I think how "conservatives" have let themselves be cornered into to a position against one of the most conservative issues of our time - preserving the environment - as have the liberals been snookered into the opposition position.
My daughter-in-law - a flaming liberal - is the bane of developers in Mercer county and has successfully blocked tens of millions of dollars worth of construction and she bridles when I tell her that nothing could be more conservative than refusing to let people make an honest living by building homes for other people just because you like things as they are.
I also ask my right-wing builder friends how it feels when other people's refusal to budge from the status quo prevents you from earning a living.