>>Only thing if I need a car I need some space for my remaining three daughters and they like to bring friends with them. And since the car makers in there wisdom have decided that the back row need contoured seats I've got a problem. I realy would have a car a bit smaler then mine but the choice is this what is based on a C4 - VW Golf sized car - or somthing much bigger..
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>I'm driving a Saxo from 2001 :). Still averages 6,17 l/100km (38,75 MPG) and that's even less, considering that I make just about 7000 km a year. Just as blue as on that picture, but 5 doors. Most of the spring/fall season it's a two-seater, because we need to move the crates to and from the garden :).
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>And it is still swift and fast enough to get me out of the bind or to pass a long truck on a regional road (two-way!). It's got enough electronics to keep the consumption low, but it's not fly-by-wire, when I press the pedal it's still direct.
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>>I had a Nissan Quest the last weeks - plenty space but consumption - well I was on holiday, a saxon mile is 9km long and a gallon means nothing to me :D
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>Was that the van with a barrel in the middle of the dashboard, between the driver's and passenger's legs? The funniest design I ever saw. My son-in-law says he'll never take a Nissan to fix again, it takes about four times longer to get to any part of the engine than it takes on a Toyota or a BMW. One of those where you have to take off the gearbox to change the oil filter, as the mechanics' horror stories say.

No, fhe new version misses this feature. I saw an old one with it and found no use off it.
Anything worst then an BMW? Unbelievable. I saw more broken down BMW then all other models summed up the las couple of weeks. The transpotation system worst then an BMW is an ICE. This is the train that in general will not work in common center european summer and winter. Manufacturer and operator are claiming it's not designed for such extrem conditions.