>>Beg your pardon.
>>But sometimes I wonder how you folks code. How can one generalize the smallest procedure with such thinking??
>>Makes me shudder.
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>And I sometimes wonder how "you folks arrive at conclusions" by twisting words. :)
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>I already stated - legally I oppose the death penalty now (for years I legally favored it), because (despite all the advancements in DNA forensics) of the # of people who have been wrongly convicted. It doesn't happen frequently, but even one is too much.
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>But morally, when we are talking about someone who has actionably committed first degree murder, and has been convicted - that individual forfeits all rights and can claim no rights.
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>So legally and even epistemologically, I favor life in prison with no chance of parole. But morally, when an individual takes an innocent life in a context of first degree murder, that is such a monstrous action that I do not believe in atonement or forgiveness, and even capital punishment is too small a punishment.

Hey I'm not on the moralistic trip.

Only All means all.

What I mean is, that you should be more carefull with your words. It is very easy to do the next step and it is very clear where it goes.
I had to look up some off the words you use - because they are not within the range of words I use. Not religious means no use of such. So I can not consider it as an option. All decisions are up to us.

Even the most monstrous action needs a response that keeps our action in limits. Because that is what defines us. If we act like you propose, we are not better. This is the hard way.

And I'm torned with the death penalty. A lifelong prison sentence is a kind of special torture, OTOH death is final and a misjudgment is that easy. (In special if this revenge / punishment attitude is around.)

Also, I consider single murder not as monstrous. This is inavoidable (Not tolerable! Don't get me wrong. Final removing out of the society the one or the other way is something I think is only answer) behaviour within the human species.
Monstrous are the cold blooded folks with the little joystcks killing people from behind. The real monsters are those that order the killing.