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http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/how-climate-change-deniers-got-it-very-wrongViv, I'll reply to this later because there's something in particular I want to reply with - but for now, have to catch a plane soon.
But I will say this - I don't quote Fox news because I generally don't find them (with just a few exceptions of certain guests) to be credible. I also don't have much confidence in an opening line from MSNBC.
More later