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>>Indeed, but all great politicians have some Machiavellian streak. It's unavoidable really.
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>Others would call it the main skill of a politican.
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>Mutti has startet deep in eastern germanys youth organisation, a doctorade in eastern germany, what only was possible with some clear positions (demonstarions of the right Weltanschauung to keep the thread). Kept the name of first husband while divorced and remarried. (First husband is not very happy with it as a friend shared expresses it). Trimmer. I can do without her.

I guess you're an "Ossie" yourself. So you should know : was there another way to accomplish something in East-Germany ?