>>The polls here indicate that 43 percent of Republicans believe Obama is a Muslim vs 15 percent of democrats.
>>I suspect its 90% of all FOX News viewers...haha
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>Victor, there have been several polls with very difficult results.
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>Yes, while the % of Rs who believe that is higher than the % of Ds, those polls are filled with confirmation bias, inconsistent lines of questioning, etc.
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>Here's an example - it deals with the way that people have reacted to a major Congressional election study, and the way that people react when someone jumps on Trump's back when Trump "doesn't correct someone who says 'Obama is lying about his faith'"

...my problem with the polls that I saw was that they didn't have a lot of data to work with to begin with - so I question how well it really reflects society.

>Here are numbers from the Congressional election study. Note: I am not debating faith or whether one religion is better. I am simply referring to published studies and the way people have reacted to them. Here are numbers from registered Democrats:
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>On Obama's faith, according to polled Dems.
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>26% I don't know
>17% "Spiritual"
>2% Atheist
>10% Muslim
>45% Christian
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>First, I want to point out that some polls that targeted Rs had a fewer # of choices. But beyond that...
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>Look at these numbers. So while only a small % of Dems in the poll think that Obama is a Muslim, slightly over half aren't taking Obama at his word that he's a Christian. While I'm not a fan of either Scott Walker or Donald Trump, MSNBC unfairly ripped them for not "speaking up" when right-wingers questioned whether Obama was telling the truth. Well, guess what...from that poll, a quarter of Dems surveyed don't know either, and slightly more than half didn't take Obama's word as gospel (no pun intended)

hmmmm. I guess I kinda disagree with that. If some bozo at your event has the microphone and is saying what is an obvious flat out lie, you don't just stand there and let it slide - or say something like "we will be looking into that" or say "I didn't say that, they said that, but I didn't say that"..and then go about encouraging such behavior - which is exactly what Trump did. No. What you do is what John McCain did - you take the mic back, say "that is not true - he is a fine man, we just disagree on policies.." - and then go about discussing things like... ya know...real issues.

>Quite simply, those who jump on Rs (for claiming that Obama is lying) can't have it both ways. I'm asking for both you and Bill to give that some thought.

I wasn't suggesting that the Dem's don't lie and only the Rep's do - but it's become clear to me over the years that when something is said that is completely off-the-wall crazy nuts, it's coming from the R's side of the isle. All you have to do is watch the first Republican debate to get a glimpse of some of the wacko's saying obvious lies. They KNOW they're lying and spreading false information and do it anyway. That is not breaking a campaign promise - it's just lying about the facts. I mean you got Carly Fiorina standing there talking about a video that she's says she saw that doesn't even exist and on and on and on. Later you have Trump claiming he say 1000's of people in NJ cheering when the towers fell...and this clown is sticking to his guns even though he's been caught in the lie. This is a pattern of behavior in the GOP.