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03/02/2016 17:03:53
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., Nouvelle Zélande
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>>>I absolutely accused him of lying and mass deceptions during election years. Evidence is on my side. Even major U.S. newspapers have accused the president of the same lies
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>The context was the ACA. With the grandfather period extended again, Obama was right when he spoke in 2009 and 2010: if you had a roll over plan that you liked when Obama said his thing, the ACA allowed you to keep it to this day. Unless you or your insurer elected to exit the arrangement, of course. If your plan was one of those where the parties agreed a one-year period that did not roll over, the ACA did not prevent that agreement being fully satisfied either. People who say otherwise generally try to graft those 2009 comments onto a plan taken in 2012 (which has no grandfather provision and did not exist when Obama said his thing) or haven't researched what grandfathering means, or simply want to pile on. Ask yourself why you're not still hearing the accusation trumpeted to the skies and why TV and newspapers never were full of tearful victims whose plans were stripped from them by the ACA. The few who did appear were quickly discredited. In all fairness, the concept of grandfathering and considering the veracity of Obama's comments when they were made... it's not complicated. If Obama were standing again he could have an absolute field day with the poorly considered shrieking accusations that have dogged his presidency.

The GOP is never going to be happy with the ACA no matter what. Period. And also, no matter what, you're going to be able to find people who it didn't work for - like the people who's rates went up. The fact that millions of people have insurance that didn't have it before doesn't matter to these people. It's one of those things where if it doesn't work for ME - then the whole thing must be a failure. Screw everyone else - it's all me me me me me. If you had a whole swimming pool full of water, these clowns would have an issue with taking a glass of water out of THEIR pool to give a guy dying of thirst a drink of water. The concept of "the greater good " eludes these types. Their logic is that they have ALL the water in the pool for themselves, then the water will trickle down to everyone else - so therefor it's better they keep all the water. That or you need to work harder and get your own pool of water - and if you can't do that then it's all your own fault.
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