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04/02/2016 15:52:23
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
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>>Excuse me for interrupting but was/is it also true that the ACA was going to force many of those plans to change or drop AND the administration knew that. So the statement may have been technically true when you add in "provided the suppliers do not cancel" but they knew that was exactly what was going to happen.

Post ACA, new plans do have to comply with a set of minimum coverage standards- but since people didn't have those plans pre-ACA when Obama said his thing, it's not about them.

If you already had a plan in 2009-2010 and it already complied, ACA doesn't stop you keeping your good plan.

If you had a plan that was inadequate when Obama said you can keep it if you like it, and it didn't have a fixed termination date- then those plans were "grandfathered" until a cut off date. Until that cut off date is reached, you can keep the plan.

The cut off date has been extended repeatedly and is not yet reached. IOW the ACA has not forced anybody to quit a plan they liked when Obama said his thing.

Seems to me the administration is using the termination date as an attrition date to leave enough time for people to move on voluntarily. All they need to do is ensure there are better/cheaper plans in the exchanges and just keep waiting until even the least observant catch on, or insurers with old cheap plans take the opportunity to retire them.

What it means in 2016 is that if you had a plan in 2009-2010 and wanted to keep it until this day, you could have.

The reference to voluntary exit is that many/most roll over plans allow the insurer or policy holder to exit, e.g. at an anniversary date, else the policy rolls over. If insurer or policy holder did decide to exercise those provisions, that's normal commerce, not the ACA at work.

Sorry for the essay but IMHO it's not complicated once you push through the blizzard of partisan sound bites. Had the original 2013 termination date been kept, the accusation would have wings. But it has been extended repeatedly. Worth asking why the administration kept extending the date if it was all just a lie.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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