>>>JR, this is my last line of this (well, at least for today) :)
>>>That is revisionist history.
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>No, it's simple logic. Of course Obama was talking about the ACA's effect on plans you already had and liked when it came into effect. Post-ACA it's absurd and desperate to expect you could take on a new plan that didn't meet the standard... and then keep it forever. But that's what your version insists on- that Obama emasculated his own Act so you can call him a liar. Talk about revisionism.

And that's the big problem I have...the "of course that's what he was talking about". The other day you joked about most Americans not caring about political debates because they are too busy making ends meet. Fair enough, do you honestly, honestly expect that Americans understand the "of course" in this situation? At the very least, he didn't prepare them. But the sequence of events are more consistent with a lie.

You *might* be able to make that argument if Obama hadn't been so bold in his statements. But his statements were clear..."let me be clear - if you like your plan, if you like your doctor, you can keep them. PERIOD". That was his consistent mantra, dozens of times - a mantra so misleading (or worse) that his policy advisors reportedly told him to can it with that line.