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>IMHO it's a legitimate question why SQL Server people need to step in to "rescue" a NET user group somewhere significant like NY. If you cannot see anything except grievance in that, that's you being defensive and hunting for grievance like a stereotype liberal.

As a native NY'er who lived through most of the VFP cycles I might be able to add something to that.

The Long island VFP user group was constantly hanging on a thread. It died and was reborn several times before expiring finally around 1999.
You'd think that with all those companies and people we'd have had a full house.
Never happened.
Don't know why, but that's the way it was.
NYC was scarcely better.
I went in a few times to see speakers like Allan Griver, etc at the MS building and there were more empty seats than filled ones.

On the other hand, It's been SRO several times at Philly.net in Malvern.

Can't explain it. Something happens when you cross the Hudson.