That's my first line of problem solving, Lutz.

I am trying to solve constant form opening and closing problem where all the forms use the same set of files - a formset is a logical choice as all the forms use the same data in the formset data environment, so there will be no constant opening and closing the data files. So I created the formset, added all the forms, and tried to run it. As soon as you click on the thing to take you to the formset, vivibility of the WHOLE program is gone. So I eliminated ALL the forms one by one, and it STILL does that. Next thing I created a new formset with ONE blank form in it, and it STILL makes the whole program vanish when you try to DO the form. I there some weird access to formsets that I don't know about?