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27/03/2016 10:31:58
Walter Meester
HoogkarspelNetherlands
 
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>>>>>I didn't know many of these facts:
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>>>>>http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/the-pernicious-myth-of-the-oppressed-european-muslim/
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>>>>"facts" ?? What a worthless article which does not at all go into the root causes of the problem and totally ignores historical context, past and present. It's just an anti-Muslim rant.
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>>>>.
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>>>Today I read that one of the victims of the terrorist act in Belgium was a 29 year old woman who was going to New York with her husband to celebrate their wedding anniversary. The husband is in coma.
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>>>And all that you care is how poor Muslims maybe offended by an article that states true facts.
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>>Dmitry,
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>>True facts ??? Are you kidding?
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>>I've tried to be polite, but here is where you struck an open nerve. I'm a born Dutch, roman catholic and have absolutely no ties with any muslim organization of whatsoever. But your plain racist stupidity makes my heart puge out.
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>>It is the same kind of racism that raged in Nazi Germany 75 years ago towards Jews.
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>>Your attitude is the kind of absolute evil that cost tenths of millions of lives during WWII. You're attitude is a disgrace for humanity.
>>You're either incredible stupid to believe such very plain propaganda or a low-life scum racist that frankly should be exterminated from the face of the earth together with ISIS.
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>>Michel, I do not care if you bump me off this forum, I've been on this forum for almost 20 years without being banned once, but I refuse to tolerate such idiocy.
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>What I see is that you are willing to scarifies many innocent lives in Belgium and in other European countries for the sake of political correctness.
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>During the Boston Marathon bombing a family lost a little boy and his sister lost a leg. And all you care is about political correctness. The two scumbags who perpetrated the bombings were given everything in this country: food, shelter, education, spots. And they still wanted to kill as many innocent people as they could.

So you're saying that the act of one or few individuals (no matter how dramatic) in a society is enough to reflect that to and generalize millions, if not billions?

It is very easy to draw up a list the entire other way around. What the western world has done to Muslim. What about those Iraqi families who lost they family members because of a GI-Joe nutcase who starts shooting around? Are all Americans now terrorists and mass murderers?

What about abu ghraib. Are all American soldiers fascistic torturers?

What about the widespread child molesting in the catholic church? Are Catholics synonyms for child molesters?

The incredible narrow minded thinking you expose here is mind blowingly shocking. You don't seem to want to accept any other causes of what is happening in the world. You work backwards: You have an opinion and you search for prove that supports your statement. Nazis did the same.

That the West and Russia play a huge role in the entire mess in the middle east is something you conveniently ignore. If there wasn't a single drop of oil to be found there, we would not be in such mess. You probably have not even heard about the word "Geopolitics" where only an elite few are winners, and the rest of the population are losers. How would you feel if you're sitting on a huge pile of gold and the Chinese are mining it, and you're getting nothing thanks to a few corrupt of you leaders? Your children are hungry and dying and a mile down the road you see those Chinese getting drunk, partying, driving in their luxurious cars? What do you think is happening in places like Nigeria?

>I feel that people like you tacitly encouraging the terrorist acts in Europe by giving them more and more excuses. Do you send them money or only encourage them with words?

Oh man, you really have no clue what you're talking about. You cannot prevent this type of terror by labeling every Muslim as a terrorist or at least a supporter. In fact by doing so, will make matters even worse and will give terrorists even more reason and motivation. What do you suppose Europe should do? There are tents of millions of Muslim that are born in Europe and especially in south eastern parts have been living there for hundreds of years. Do you really want to label them your enemy tomorrow?

There are many things that can be done without reverting to genocide to deal with this problem:
1. Put more resources in intelligence agencies to prevent future terroristic attacks
2. Put more suspects to jail, law should change that if there is reason to believe you have been military trained in the middle east to be detained.
3. Research to causes of why youth radicalize and find ways to act upon that

What you should NOT do
1. Walk like an elephant in a china shop (a'la Donald Trump), the world is even more fragile than a china shop and racists are bigger than whales.
2. Search for a scape goat and take revenge.
3. Lower yourself to the same tactics as you enemy

And what people do not realize is that freedom comes with a price. We paid a gigantic price in WWII for that. These terroristic attacks are merely the rent we pay for it. Freedom has never been free and never will be.

Also, Europe always had a history of terrorism. The 70 and 80-ties were bloodier than the last two decades. We've had the IRA, RAF, ETA, the Italian Mob causing more deaths than Madrid, London, Paris and Brussels combined.

Also a question for you: If you consider this terror as war crimes, Even in Europe, who has been more the victim of war crimes in the last 30 years? 'Christians' murdered by 'Muslim' or 'Muslim' murdered by 'Christians' ?

Look up: Srebrenica , the Dutch shame.
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