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>It will work out. Sooner or later. We have some success now with the 24 year old since she is married. With the smallers (I have a single one older and three ranging from 9-14) it's catastrophic. I'm happy if they find the way to there bed.

I've often wondered how things would be if Katy had a sibling, but that one wasn't in the cards.

Here was a conversation I had with Katy a few weeks ago when I was trying to get her to pick up her toys...

Me: "Katy, all I'm asking you to do is pick up a few things. It should only take you a minute"
Katy: "But Daddy, that's chores!"
Me: "Yes, but when I was a kid I had to do many more chores than that"
Katy: "But daddy, you're an old-timer!"

It was hard for me to get mad, because the line cracked me up. I have a rule that I can't get mad at her if she says something that makes me laugh