Hi Michel,

thank you for your answer. I will remove items I understand. Please note, most of the stuff I put in this are opinions, not feature requests.

>As for the user profile pictures, if applicable, left and right represents the direction of the message.

this was clear as blue sky :).

>>Aside that, the formating is bad. See the message above 3c where 9 hours ago is spread over two lines.
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>Each line content a different amount of characters. So, sometimes, it might wrap.

Come on. This is no excuse for number and unit on separate lines. no breaking space?? Also it might be enough to have the time w/o ago. It could not be in the future.

>>See picture, area marked with 1. This is the space used (or wasted) for the news feed. If I like to click it, I have to focus the tiny underlined link. The news is the whole block. Responsive design would mean simple click somewhere into it. To click something on the 10 last thing was faster and more easy. The new approach means more mouse race and more focusintg the mouse on small targets.
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>The content varies from one item to another. In that case, Thomas Ganss does not have a picture so there cannot be an image. There was also no uploaded image in that reply, so the first thread image does not apply.

It's about that the whole rectangle should be clickable to go to the message. Not only the the tiny link, wrapped over two lines. The important to me is to reach the message quick, no exersise in mouse targeting.

>>I'm red blind, I do not see a one pixel wide letter in red as red. It's black in my vision. The rectangles in the picture are hard for me to determine as red, a bit smaller and it is black. This is true for all red and red green blinds. This was the whole idea to not use red for links in the original color setting on HTML. Those where bright folks.
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>A setting will be added so you can select the counter color.

I can live with it like it is. I understand the numerator gives me the there is new something information, the color is more or less extra. Possibly you invent a better name for it then red number, so there is no more hickup.

>>Also the replys on the left side and some of the last 10 was usefull. In special the replys on the left I miss. To create this answer, I had to switch to the new interface (because I prefer the old one) , after that all messages where gone. It would have been a single click to the replies, but so I was forced to scroll down the news feed (This idea comes up this very moment) Or the go back in time - what is hidden under messages what I think counter intuitive.
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>Do you see Replies on top with a counter saying "Replies (4/27)" for example? The 4 would have been shown in red. So, for now, as you explain, you might not notice it. But, once you can change the 4 color, it will be obvious you have a new unseen reply.

The use of the numerator 4 on this is obvious. I would never had noticed (or needed) the color, it was only you mention it and I had a problem to figure out what you where talking about. To me the color is unimportant for the use of the site - only to communicate with you :)

Replies on counter bar and on left hand bar is not the same. Each has a use of its own.

>Other than the last 10 replies, what other top 10 you were in need of?

I use Messages, thread no Reply (sometimes) and message I created

>>The notification on top bar is no compensation because it kills the tree. (It was showing wrong numbers for the moment anyway, it was 8/8, but I've read all replies to me. After clikcing it it was able to go on just 8)
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>This shouldn't be like that. I do not have any pending items to adjust in regards to the counter so they should represent properly the unseen item. If you have a scenario observed about it, I will be happy to take a look at it.

What I have done is read your reply (it was the only new at this time), go to account, switched to new interface, hit enter on adress bar (or F5, I'm uncertain). After that I missed the reply lefthand, looked around and found the thing in top counter (1/8). Clicked there get the list select the top message (yours, the one allready seen) open the message. The counter switched to 8

>>This is where you have this huge Developer Community (off topic: UT is a business run by you not by a community as this suggest, so be true. I would if I would live under overseas jurisdiction) logo right now. On last try it was simply background.
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>We have all rights to show that in there. There is nothing wrong with that. This has been used for years, even in the early 90's.

I do not complain about it. (Even if I think myself as customer rather then a member.) It's off topic.

>>See message above. It's a bit better with the colored banner. Before, with just background it was strange.

>I do not understand that point. Please, provide more information.

You have this big colored area on top. On my initial message, this area was not colored at all, no lefthand picture, just background. Looks fixed.

>>Rectangle 2: Fancy, wasted space. Complete meaningless, only limits the space I can work with.
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>A setting has been confirmed for that which will allow you to define the margins.

Merci

>>Rectangles 3a-3d
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>Rectangle 3d is completely offset. I have no idea why this is showing as orphan in the middle of nowhere. Do you have a scenario to simulate that?

3d is an insert. Just to save me the effort to create an extra picture. Nothing fancy, just MSPaint.

>>3a Just unattractive text, like on an PC game of the 90s where you need to move the mouse over, to figure out what is clickable. Poor design. This is not a mobile with big thumb on tiny screen, this is desktop with tiny mouse pointer on huge screen. Results in RSI.
>>3b Mostly like 3a, now with some background
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>I read you say 3a and 3b is not good. But, one is text and one is graphic. And, the one in graphic has been there as before. So, what exactly is not good here?

What do I care what is text and what is graphic? I just see the result. And this does not fit togheter. Again, this is a hint to you, just my impression. Bad on 3a is that I have to fiddle around with my mouse to figure aut what is clickable and what is not (For example my name looks the same as anything else, but is not clickable). 3b is the same approach, but differnet background, thats all I see.

>>3c (Message Header as well, Tree as well) Clickable area underlined
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>Please, provide more information on what you want in here? You highlight some points but you do not say or propose something better.

It's not so about what I want. It's one place like this and the next place like that. Use one style, even the ugly without underline, but one and only one.

>>3d (The insert) Now we have boxes with icons
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>3d has not been changed. This has been like that for years. What is not working with that exactly?

see 3c

>>Audio / Audio ( / Descriptive / Short / Disabled. What is the second Audio good for?
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>This is something requested by members in the early 90's. They wanted audio notifications. Some want it off and some want it on. Some even switch it during the presence at work to go in silent mode and audio mode back at night at home. There is an option to turn it off, one option to have an audio but with short description and one with long. What do you propose to enhance that?

I know what the pop up does. It's ok so far. But why is this the text Audio in the popup? It's not clickable, what the popup is about is in the textbox above visible anyway.

>Sponsors provide a part of the reason why this site is running and still running about 20 years. If users do not pay for something, what else do you propose to help pay for the expenses on this site? I also donated an enormous amount of money on my own, not corporate, to keep this site alive for years. If you have a better idea, many would like to hear about it.

Doubtless. No complains about this advertisement for non paying customers. I've told you my idea about contribution if I do not pay money and I believe in TANSTAAFL. The advertisement is related to the stuff we are doing, nothing strange. Just - flickering. Distracting. Since this seems to be a loop anyway, it would be enought to change it with refreshing the message area / tree area via messages button.
But if I pay the use directly I think I should not be bothered with advertisement. This would mean to pay twice.
So the question was: is this advertisement (for that the whole banner) there if I pay for a subscription?
Just answer yes or no, I simply adjust my willingnes to pay for a subscription. It's not the sole factor, you understand. But it would clearly be the first site I allow advertisement at all.

>>Euphemisms will change nothing. The word is advertisement. And this flickering is distracting me from my work. So I have to move UT into background and will not answer messages because I do not see them anymore.
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>Many sites will not even allow user to change one single setting. We provide a few hundreds. I have never seen a site elsewhere in the world allowing users to control so much from the interface. And, we respond as requests are coming. Most sites I know never does one single suggestion we are sending them.

There are reasons we are still on this site. ;)
Michel, there is no bad feeling involved from my side. You've asked opinions and I do the best I can do. I need hours on this message of my spare time. As I've told you before, this is my POV, there are others to respect as well.

>But, in regards to that specific point, knowing that you will be able to push the refresh rate to a 5-minute interval, should be pretty good because this is only 12 refreshes an hour, and that should be pretty good.

Simply on messages refresh? You do not need the timer, nobody is distracted, and if there is no new message at all it is not worth to look anyway.

>>If I buy a subscription, will this crap remain? The whole banner, on this. Boring advertisement in itself, means nothing to me, I know what site I'm on anyway. You snitch a part of my screen that will never ever give you any return, because I never click on banners at all. Basic rule. In my eyes banner advertisement is as dead as the dodo for a decade.
>>The little logo on the old design is neat.
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>There will never be a co-relation with a subscription and the ability to turn off items which are generating revenues. If you do that, sponsors will go away. This is basic rules. Why should I pay for something if anyone can hide what I am paying for?

Somehow we have this twice.
Why should I read advertisements for stuff I pay for (If I own a subscripton)? Or the other way around, why should I pay a subscription, if you are payed by the advertisement anyway? Or: One of the direct benefits I see out of a subscription is to have UT without advertisement. Just my 0,02€

>>The scrollbar 4a ends in nowhere.
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>I do not understand that point. I looked at that image and 4a seems to be ok. You have a vertical scrollbar on the message view because the message height is higher than the available space.

What the scrollbar is good for is not the point. The top end of it is, if I just look at it, within an area that is just of background color. No hint why the scrollbar ends just on his place. I know what area, I understand why but I don't see it. Just focus on the top of it on a wide enough screen, and you will have no idea for what reason it just ends there. This is because the background of the tree aread simply goes without any border to the background of the message area. The border is around my line 4b, nut normaly not visible.

>However, I see something wrong at the bottom. The bottom margins were never adjusted and it seems like the bottom part is hitting the browser border. What was the browser used when you took that image?

Firefox

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>>I know its the boundary 4b between the tree and the message. But it's just somewhere in the air.
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>We could add a setting to show a divider. Is this what you are looking for? This simply crowds the area for nothing. But, if you need it, I will see about it.
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>>I'm missing the time, again.
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>Yes, this is still on our list.
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>>Loading / refreshing time is still poor. I have a faster internet connection since last time I mentioned it, so this seams not to be the bottleneck.
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>This is something I cannot reproduce here.
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>>You have my name in the top bar. It's not clickable or of any use.
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>This is just to show the current account used. We try to remain standard as other sites. But, if you want a switch to turn it off, that can be doable.

It's not worth an additional switch. See below.

>>General use of such links is to put settings and logoff under it, but for now it just shows my name. Is this good for double accounts to get not confused?
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>This sites has too much settings so we cannot use that route. If you take a look at major social networking sites, ..how long does it take for someone to find something in the account to adjust? ...too long for me, and that is when I can find it. In here, it's only one click from the left side. Can't be more easier than that. Yes, for that part, we do not go with the standard. But, as I mentioned in the other line, we have to use a different way to access the account settings in order to offer an immediate visual recognition on where to click without going into hidden endless menus.

I do well without those data gathering companies. I socialize in the pub next door. So I have only a very small idea what you are talking about.

As I'm wrote above, the name breaks the rest of the count bar. There are 10 sections that do some action and one - just nice. This is somehow akward. Just my impression. The lines about the use somewhere else are just clearification, no feature request.

Lutz