>>>And this was used by some strange minds that had nothing to do then eyeballing. I know stories of ladys fixing something to meet that wall for that purpose. At least I have a novell somewhere talking about it and normaly the reality is worst then fantasy. Also a common place to fix a date. Some folks felt incommode, others where affronted, majority ignored or was so fixed on etiquette that they not observed it. In general etiquette was kept.
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>They say beauty is in the eye of the beholder: so too should behavior in the facilities be governed by the eye of the beholder.
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>If a female wants to attach an appendage and stand at the wall in the mens', many would be startled that an XX human wants to do that, but IMHO few would feel traumatized or fearful unless it's persistent or accompanied by other behavior. Similarly, at least some here will have seen younger women coming into the mens' because queues for their own facilities are too long. Again, more likely to cause reactions of mirth or startlement rather than men feeling traumatized or unsafe.
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>The same cannot be said in the opposite direction, unfortunately. Women have good reason to fear males in their facilities, especially males exposing parts of their anatomy for whatever reason. It's simply not reciprocal.

Agree 100%, as JB and I confirmed with a little social experiment in a sports bar, circa 2007 :)