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Brexit - 51.9% for Leave
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From
26/06/2016 16:41:05
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
 
 
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25/06/2016 08:22:53
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>>Secondly, the younger generation has lost the right to live and work in 27 other countries. We will never know the full extent of the lost opportunities, friendships, marriages and experiences we will be denied. Freedom of movement was taken away by our parents, uncles, and grandparents in a parting blow to a generation that was already drowning in the debts of our predecessors.

I agree about the debt, but the rest is FUD. The UK remains a member of the EU with two years and possibly longer of detailed negotiation process to come. With millions of EU citizens in meaningful employment in the UK and vice versa, it seems unlikely the doors will be slammed, at least for professional roles. Just as the doors are not slammed on kids from the US who want to do a stint in Paris or London. IMHO the idea that this is all about Xenophobia is wrong, it's a rejection of disconnected elites who talk down to Joe Average and call him names if he dares to disagree with his betters.

>> ‘The British people are sick of experts,’ he was right. But can anybody tell me the last time a prevailing culture of anti-intellectualism has led to anything other than bigotry?"

That's what Marie Antoinette would have thought, too. Those awful peasants. Actually the peasants would prefer an easy life and if the elites can't see that, then when has that prevailing attitude led to anything other than revolution?

As for crystal balls: IMHO there will be a flurry of speculative behavior and if the UK pound stays low then Brexit has achieved something that reserve bank governors all over the world have been trying to achieve to boost their own industry. Meanwhile the UK is the 5th largest economy on the planet with cheerful friends down under who still have the Queen as head of state and would love to renew the huge trade in quality foodstuffs that stopped when the UK joined the EU... and lets not forget other Commonwealth nations like Canada and India. India already owns Jaguar and would be delighted to take over the EU's trade with the UK in vehicles, heavy machinery and pharmaceuticals. I expect we'll see initiation of trade talks with all these commonwealth nations, which will put pressure on the EU to come up with something reasonable to maintain trade with the UK.

Final observation would be that Switzerland held a referendum in 2014 re taking control of its own immigration policies rather than following EU rules as per bilateral treaty. The Swiss voted to take back control. This is binding on the Swiss government that tried to negotiate with Brussels, who refused to budge on its policy regarding free movement of people. So last month Switzerland produced a unilateral proposal to control immigration. Theoretically this ends the bilateral agreements between Switzerland and the EU. So my question is: why does nobody call Switzerland racist or bigoted? And has the EU slammed the doors on Switzerland, or is it business as usual?
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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