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Brexit - 51.9% for Leave
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>>>>>They're just figureheads. It's the banksters. Just follow the money.
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>>>Today I believe the EU was to formally unveil what it signaled last month: individual EU states apparently are to transfer their sovereign security, criminal law, taxation, foreign policy and central banking powers to Brussels, to form one large pan-European superstate.
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>>>Common sense/awareness of the people would indicate delay of such an announcement, so lets see. Meanwhile, consider yesterday's gems from EU grandees:
>>>Juncker, President of EU Commission: "There can be no democratic choice against European Treaties"
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>>Was that in CETA context? Seems they wont to keep that even out of the parliaments as well, perhaps to create a blueprint for the even more suspect TTIP.
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>>>Schulz, President of EU Parliament: “The British have violated the rules. It is not the EU philosophy that the crowd can decide its fate"
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>>And the gall of them to decide for the british when they should pull §50 to start the automatic exit countdown. Shows the typical bargaining is not made on strength of own position (which always includes the option to walk away) but on perceived necessities. They would hate me there...
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>>>/edit/ It appears that a version of the announcement went ahead. Full text here (scroll down for non-Polish speakers!) http://www.tvp.info/25939587/europejskie-superpanstwo-zobacz-oryginalny-dokument
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>The trouble with politicians is they are very short term.

Exception from the rule : Juncker - and that is one political term I would cheer if it would end ASAP.

>They could have let free market and movement lead to economic harmonisation over several decades then slowly move towards political mergers.

Agree totally in sentiment. In practice this would lead to member states crafting special laws (see tax laws as an example) to get ahead. but this could have been handled better by setting up the EU as guidance rule system. Trouble is, this is more of a small gov approach hated openly by all do-good-politicians and even small gov proponents often are happy to milk the system.

One mixed case is establishing a common legal biz framework - creating a EU common framework for corporate stuctures and forcing member states to allow such corporations in their legal system side by side along the country-historic corporation is a benefit IMO as long as it is only an option, even if it balloons up legality in each member state. More on the benefit side, but creating bureocracy to reduce it ;-))
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