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VFP advantages over .NET
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Visual FoxPro
Catégorie:
VFPX/Sedna
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Thread ID:
01638709
Message ID:
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>>Why do you want to migrate to Windev for? Write better desktop applications?
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>Yes, as well as interactive AJAX/JS/CSS enabled websites and also mobile apps.

All running the same code? This discussion seems to answer 'no' ... "Survey about windev inside browser"
Nouvel outil pour téléporter votre application Windev
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Sounds too good to be true. Bizarre anyone have information on this product. von Paulo Oliveira - am 18.12.2013 14:44
Indeed it looks to good to be true. The other link is nice as well ( ? (http://tsplus.net/) von Allard - am 18.12.2013 16:11
It looks incredible. There is a similar product for Visual FoxPro called FoxInCloud
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This products seems to have vanished away, and if it has attempted to exist, it's because Windev does not offer this ability.


As a conclusion on my side, cocorico since the 3 products discussed here (Windev, TSplus and FoxInCloud are all ... French!
Who said recently "La France is no longer la France"?

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>>Desktop applications belong to the past; web apps are what clients are looking at now.
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>This is a debatable generality and, I'm sure, depends on target markets and industries.
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>>Developing a 'modern', AJAX-based Web app from scratch, using 'modern' tools such as Angular is very, very difficult. You can't start saying I'm gonna learn some HTML/CSS/JS and I'll be set. It requires years of Web development -- from the early ages of form.post -- to get into the circumvolutions of http, HTML, CSS, JS. Did you ever try this?
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>Since you asked the question; In our case we don't need to try that - with WinDev/WebDev we can build AJAX/CSS/JS and/or PHP powered websites in the same way one creates VFP applications only much faster and without knowing AJAX, JS, HTML, CSS or PHP. I am sure there are many very powerful tools out there and I don't suggest WinDev is the only one but WinDev project construction and language syntax is certainly the closest to VFP that I have come across.
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>>Setting up a Web app. also aims at presenting a more pleasant UI, with improvements that HTML/CSS/JS provide, like adapting the display to hand-held devices.
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>In order to achieve this more "pleasant and adaptive UI" the developer must presumably learn to work with the FiC produced HTML/CSS/JS?
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>>Using 2X and TSPlus, everyones knows that your app. is VFP based.
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>Not true, users cannot see that it is a VFP app. Users experience a TSPlus/2X published app either (1) as if the app was running locally on their device, like a locally installed app (desktop mode), or (2) the app can run inside a browser tab (HTML5/browser mode). What it looks like to a user is up to the developer to design but there is no obvious way in which a user would know the specific underlying development language. TSPlus/2X are, as I explained in my point 3, a fast option for anyone wanting to deliver their existing applications via the internet or an intranet (regardless of development tools used).
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>>>1) If the proposition is that FIC converts your existing VFP app to another dev-tool / language and that will therefore help a developer jump start their development in that new dev-tool language while saving the work done in the VFP code base that's fine - I agree and that should be an option for anyone with a large code-base and no business case to re-write. But you are then also advocating either learning a new dev-tool / language (in your case HTML+JS+CSS) or be stuck with and limited to the VFP IDE and command / function set.
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>>>2) If the proposition is that FIC provides a means to prolong your VFP skills for new projects, which is what the original discussion in this thread was about and to which I was replying, then that I think is a mistake. For the average developer (i.e. the vast majority of us) the loss of some VFP specific knowledge will be more than offset in gained productivity by using a new IDE, new commands / functions, and new tools within, I guesstimate from some experience in learning several languages in my career, 6 months.
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>>>3) If the proposition is that FIC allows you to put your VFP applications on the web then that's fine but your competition is then products like 2X and TSPlus which are, in my opinion, a far better solution because they require no code change at all (don't even need to re-compile), no interface change at all, nothing new to learn, setup in minutes, available on all platforms immediately; Windows, iOS, Android, Linux - and on all devices; desktops, laptops, tablets, smartphones.
Thierry Nivelet
FoxinCloud
Give your VFP application a second life, web-based, in YOUR cloud
http://foxincloud.com/
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