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Let's wish Hillary a speedy recovery
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From
18/09/2016 18:19:43
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
 
 
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18/09/2016 17:49:53
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Health
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Women
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>>Yes, there are ways to avoid payroll taxes, but I can tell you first hand that the IRS is vigilant in its enforcement.
>>You'd be hard pressed to find a CEO of a Fortune 500 company with a base salary of under $1million.

So taxes on 500 CEO salaries will perpetuate your Medicare benefits? As Marcia would say: I have a bridge I can sell you. ;-)

>>I questioned (or at least I thought I did) the notion that she had proposed allowing all people to participate in Medicare.
>>AKA single payor.

Universal Healthcare by any other label is still Universal Healthcare. You can call it Medicare as the Australians do if you like. Doesn't change HRC's goal or why it failed (because of organized opposition- remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt31nhleeCg and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd_xPNT1Fh8 )

>>I favor the single payor idea, as did Nancy Pelose when ACA first appeared.
>>Obama caved on that idea to placate insurers and we have the current mess.

You can have universal coverage without single payer. E.g. Switzerland. This is also how Clinton's 1993 plan started out with government only paying for the poor.

As for folding to placate insurers: there was organized opposition by a lot more than just the insurers. IMHO Pelosicare was Obama's crowning achievement- to the point where some even name it after him rather than Pelosi as you seem determined to have it. FWIW there's a lot more to it than guaranteed coverage/prevention of recisions and exclusions... e.g. the profit cap of 20% for insurers that will kerb costs if price inflation stabilizes as per recent figures. In any case the US has finally started down the path towards affordable healthcare for all, joining schooling, policing, roads and other amenities that society agrees should be a shared cost.

Interestingly, there is a longstanding bill HR-676 to institute single payer care that is repeatedly blocked by Republicans since 2003. In 2009, the now notorious Anthony Weiner offered Republicans the chance to oppose government-run health care programs by his amendment that would eliminate Medicare- but every Republican committee representative voted to keep it.

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"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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