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So THIS is the final straw?? lol
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10/10/2016 15:17:10
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
 
 
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>>Understand that he's been accused of sexual assault multiple times. (There are some overlaps in these articles.)

Not an apologist for Trump- but by "multiple" you mean three, correct? Of whom two withdrew their complaint without monetary settlement and the third involves rape of a 13-year-old with a conference hearing scheduled for December, long after the dust settles.

As a woman it would be most unlikely for HRC to be accused of sexual assault, but by all accounts she has been fiercely defensive of a husband who truly has "multiple" accusations against him, who has settled at least one for hundreds of thousands of $, and who famously initially denied another but was forced to admit it after a dress with identifiable material was acquired by political opponents. Nevertheless he served out his Presidency and remains a credible figure- e.g. Hilary scores well by quoting improved deficit during his tenure and he was a very popular speaker among both men and women at a healthcare conference I attended a few years back.

Stepping back from the vileness of Trump's comments (though actually in 2014 the accidental broadcast of a reporter's crudity led to a meme involving an even coarser variant - NSFW, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7-nzLx4Oa0 ) : IMHO Trump was boasting and bragging to support his larrikin reputation in the days when he was a gung-ho businessman. He knew it was inappropriate at the time and said so in that NZ interview I posted yesterday, but it was part of a larger-than-life persona he projected. Now that he's a presidential candidate, it has come back to bite him. Characteristically, supporters excuse it on these grounds while opponents decry his shocking sexism. In fairness, you only have to look at heroic Democrat politicians like JFK to appreciate that womanizing has been normal in elite circles and probably still is, though these days phone cameras and infinite retention of digital recording means that the convention of turning a blind eye, no longer is automatic.

Meanwhile if a candidate's past is to be picked through like this, we should not be surprised at the rise of bland men and women- mostly women- who assemble beige histories that are beyond reproach, who see every interaction as a rehearsed debate and whose entire fake personality is planned and scripted to meet expectations to which few humans would subscribe if presented like this.

x7-nzLx4Oa0
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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