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24/10/2016 13:10:21
 
 
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>How about just observing the long lines for early voting in places where the number of early voting days and/or early voting stations has been reduced? One of the easiest ways to suppress voting is to make it hard to vote; waiting in line for hours currently makes it hard.
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>Or not requiring an ID makes it easier for illegal immigrants and dead people to vote early and often.

But we know that in-person voter fraud almost never happens, and that voter suppression is an ongoing problem.

As for dead people voting, I know it happens occasionally because I saw it happen. In 2010, my father filled out and we mailed for him an absentee ballot. He then died before the election. No idea whether his vote was counted, but there was no fraud involved.

We do need better systems in this country for removing people from voter rolls when they move or die. Here in PA, the voter registration form asks if you were previously registered and, if so, at what address. I believe that if that data is provided and the previous address is in state, the county is required to inform the other county. But I'm also fairly sure that the other state is rarely notified when the previous address is in another state. I know that my kids remained on the rolls here long after they'd registered in other states. I also know that they didn't vote here, they voted there. (And I'm sure that no one else walked in and voted as them because at the time, the first person you'd deal with at our polling place had known them since they were born.)

So, if someone wants to propose a nationwide system for removing people from voter rolls where they used to live when they register at a new address, and it includes appropriate safeguards to ensure that the wrong people aren't removed, I'm all for that.

Similarly, I think within county, people who die get removed sometime after a death certificate is filed. I don't know whether one county tells another, and I feel fairly certain that when a person dies and the death certificate is filed in a different state from the one where she's registered to vote, there's probably no widespread system. I think this is probably less of an issue than moving, though, because my guess is that the vast majority of Americans die in the county in which they live.

Just took a quick look at some numbers. A little more than 2.5M Americans die each year. Pew says about 1.8M dead people are registered. So my question is how many of those are people who died since the last election and simply haven't yet been removed.

Also, fwiw, I know that in PA, if you stop voting at all, you get removed after two presidential elections. So I just checked to see whether either of my parents is still registered, since in both cases, this year is the second presidential election since they died. Nope, so seems clear that reporting their death led to their removal.

>Or how adopting a 22 year old jihadi posing as a 12 year old makes it easier for terrorists to infiltrate and hurt this country?

No idea what you're talking about here.

Tamar
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