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>Seriously, I hope the Democrats can come to their senses. They try to persuade Republican electors to vote for HRC- then it backfires and 5 of their own vote for somebody else. Sheesh, unless voters can be confident that college electors will support their advertised nominee, you can't actually be sure what you're voting for. Once again, these calls to undermine Trump are actually an attempt to subvert voter will and yet again, it's an own goal. Come on Democrats: he won, so now you need to figure out what you screwed up and do better next time rather than trying to overturn the will of the voters.

The last 12 months has been humiliation for both parties, though in different ways.

Trump defeated well over a dozen Republican candidates and turn the party upside down with his brand of populism. The traditional conservatives, the neo-cons, the Tea Party people - they all fought him. And yet he won the nomination anyway. And along the way Democrats rejoiced at what seemed like the end of the R party. They speculated about a brokered convention and how HRC would destroy whoever came out of the R convention.

Boy, did they have another thing coming.

After hopes of winning back the Senate and taking the White House. the Ds suffered an embarrassment 100 times worse than the Rs suffered.

Re: the "rather than trying to overturn the will of the voters", the Ds need to start with "rather than mocking the will of the voters".

I knew all along we were looking at history here (not a shocker).