>And if trying to implement it like this doesn't work, maybe Tamar can send you her machine {just to be clear, this is a joke}. I just love it when the response to a request for help is "Well it works on my machine". To which my response is "Then please send me your machine" :)

Sometimes that's a reasonable response, not as a solution to a problem but as a reassurance that something can be made to work and they aren't just wasting their time.

Doug