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04/02/2017 17:23:00
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
 
 
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03/02/2017 10:15:14
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>>In remarks to a 2014 conference at the Vatican, Bannon warned his Christian audience, “We’re at the very beginning stages of a very brutal and bloody conflict.”
>>“We are in an outright war against jihadists, Islam, Islamic fascism,” Bannon continued. He likewise condemned “the immense secularization of the West” and the increasing secularism among millennials.
>>Bannon stressed that “the people in this room, and the people in the Church” must “bind together and really form what I feel is an aspect of the Church militant, to really be able to not just stand with our beliefs but to fight for our beliefs against this new barbarity that’s starting that will literally eradicate everything that we’ve been bequeathed over the last 2,000 and 2,500 years.”

I went and read the full transcript of his speech, which is about wealth creation and wealth distribution. You don't get that sense at all from the cherry-picked quotes in the MSM. In the actual speech he lauds "enlightened Capitalism" (as opposed to state-sponsored Capitalism per China or the Ayn Rand version that objectivies workers and concentrates wealth) which I presume you'd agree with. He describes the barbarism of WWI with huge loss of life that I'm sure you agree with. He puts Judeo-Christian ethics on a pedestal and says it's threatened by - let me quote directly:

If you look at what’s happening in ISIS, which is the Islamic State of Syria and the Levant, that is now currently forming the caliphate that is having a military drive on Baghdad, if you look at the sophistication of which they’ve taken the tools of capitalism. If you look at what they’ve done with Twitter and Facebook and modern ways to fundraise, and to use crowdsourcing to fund, besides all the access to weapons, over the last couple days they have had a radical program of taking kids and trying to turn them into bombers. They have driven 50,000 Christians out of a town near the Kurdish border. We have video that we’re putting up later today on Breitbart where they’ve took 50 hostages and thrown them off a cliff in Iraq.

That war is expanding and it’s metastasizing to sub-Saharan Africa. We have Boko Haram and other groups that will eventually partner with ISIS in this global war, and it is, unfortunately, something that we’re going to have to face, and we’re going to have to face very quickly.

So I think the discussion of, should we put a cap on wealth creation and distribution? It’s something that should be at the heart of every Christian that is a capitalist — “What is the purpose of whatever I’m doing with this wealth? What is the purpose of what I’m doing with the ability that God has given us, that divine providence has given us to actually be a creator of jobs and a creator of wealth?”

I think it really behooves all of us to really take a hard look and make sure that we are reinvesting that back into positive things. But also to make sure that we understand that we’re at the very beginning stages of a global conflict, and if we do not bind together as partners with others in other countries that this conflict is only going to metastasize.

They have a Twitter account up today, ISIS does, about turning the United States into a “river of blood” if it comes in and tries to defend the city of Baghdad. And trust me, that is going to come to Europe. That is going to come to Central Europe, it’s going to come to Western Europe, it’s going to come to the United Kingdom. And so I think we are in a crisis of the underpinnings of capitalism, and on top of that we’re now, I believe, at the beginning stages of a global war against Islamic fascism.


My read? He's opposed to radical Islamic terrorism but the MSM likes to conflate that into anti-Islam so they can scold. Any audience that has not yet appreciated the awful bias of the MSM, is frightened and dismayed. Which is of course the intent.

Re National Front etc: it's mentioned in passing and not in an approving way as some MSM cherry-picked quotes seem intended to imply. Context:

Look, we believe — strongly — that there is a global tea party movement. We’ve seen that. We were the first group to get in and start reporting on things like UKIP and Front National and other center right. With all the baggage that those groups bring — and trust me, a lot of them bring a lot of baggage, both ethnically and racially — but we think that will all be worked through with time.

The central thing that binds that all together is a center-right populist movement of really the middle class, the working men and women in the world who are just tired of being dictated to by what we call the party of Davos. A group of kind of — we’re not conspiracy-theory guys, but there’s certainly — and I could see this when I worked at Goldman Sachs — there are people in New York that feel closer to people in London and in Berlin than they do to people in Kansas and in Colorado, and they have more of this elite mentality that they’re going to dictate to everybody how the world’s going to be run.


>>NAFTA

His view is that it wasn't used as intended, instead exporting millions of US jobs. As an alternative viewpoint: take lettuces. I'm reliably informed that the additional cost to grow a lettuce using legal labor in the US, would be around 40c more than growing it in Mexico. The US public never was asked whether they're OK paying $1.40 for a lettuce rather than $1 if it means the jobs stay local. If asked that question, how would you answer? Well, the US audience never was asked, instead Ayn Randian corporates spirited the jobs away and prices for consumers may have fallen a little for a short time, but for many items prices now are back where they were, with bigger margins for the corporates and fewer jobs at home. Bannon does NOT like that form of Capitalism and clearly nor does Trump. You only to have to look at the trade imbalance to understand what Trump is saying. FWIW I disagree with him, even if there's a huge deficit - but that's another story that includes your reference to automation, but even so I "get" the logic he is following to a different conclusion from mine.

>>There's a huge amount of noise coming out now about America First. Being "leader of the free world" was very different to USA first and you can tag along if you like.

Agreed - "America First" isn't compatible with being leader of the free world, but Trump has also said he doesn't want to be leader of the free world if it has a huge policeman pricetag. Which it does. The Europeans scoffing at Trump need to be careful what they wish for.

>>Just reading about the ex Norwegian PM being detained at Dallas airport for extra questioning as he had an Iranian visa in his passport. While juts an incident its indicative of a new atmosphere.

Do you only put your seatbelt on when you're going to have a crash, or does safety dictate that you always put it on? Similarly, if connection to Iran carries a greater risk according to Obama, it's only logical to check every time you see the association. And I'm willing to bet you a pint of bitter that he would have undergone extra questioning in the Obama years as well, especially after Obama imposed a total ban on Iranian visitors for 6 months (as opposed to Trump's 30 day temporary measure to solidify proper investigative processes.)
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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