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>No the Jews ere not doing these things - but their fellow Germans were killing them were they not? The solution was not to turn all Germans away was it?
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>You are comparing apples to oranges here. The Jews being sent to concentration camps were nothing like ISIS. I suggest that you quit while you are ahead and stop comparing radial Islamic terrorism to the slaughter of the Jews in WWII.

I did not. I'm comparing the turning away of the boat full of Jews in WW2 to the turning away of refugees. Thus - both examples of turning away refugees who will face certain death, right?

>You can't say things like "all Muslims from xyz country are not moderate" because that is not true. The moderates may not be allowed to be openly moderate - hence their desire to leave. These people - including prominent ones which I'm sure you've heard speak - are the ones that can help us because this is a battle of ideals - and its those Muslims which we need to win the battle of ideals across borders.
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>You tell a nice fairy tale. Exactly what solid evidence do you have to back that statement up?

How about every moderate Muslim that has migrated to other countries? Do you think there are none or what? Heck I sat right next to one of these people for 3 years at a job. Of course you're not able to provide any evidence that suggests what you're saying because it's a wildly ludicrous statement based on nothing other than hate and prejudice. It does however shed some light on some of the reasons you voted for someone with the character of Trump though.

You can't use a blanket statement like "all Muslims from xyz country are not moderate". Simply logic dictates the problem with such a statement.

>May I remind of you of the boat of Jews we turned away in WW2 that resulted in their slaughter?
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>May I remind you that the Jews were not Islamic Jihadists? Now, I am asking you for the third time please to stop comparing the holocaust to radical Islamic terrorism. There is no comparison and I think that you are doing this just to harass me because you know that my father was a holocaust survivor. I think that such behavior is against the T&C of this site.

May I remind you that fleeing women and children refugees are not Islamic Jihadist either. The Jews in question were German - the refugees in question are Muslim. You don't turn away the fleeing Jews just because they are German, just as you don't turn away the refugees just because they are Muslim or from a country where their are terrorist. I think there are more similarities than you're willing to admit. We should be learning from out past mistakes not repeating them.

>Or would you be one of the idiots standing at the shore screaming to send the Germans away because they're allllll terrorists? It seems that you have this attitude now towards people fleeing despite the fact that your father was a holocaust survivor, which I find quite shocking. I would expect if anything you would welcome refugees and immigrants with open arms considering this background - it makes no sense to me
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>Your attacks on me and your harassment on the matter of the holocaust are unwarranted. As I keep telling you, you cannot compare the Islamic Jihadists to the Jews. And if you do not stop harassing me like this, I am going to file a complaint with the management. I also believe that your insults (e.g. calling me an idiot in the paragraph above are also against the T&C for this site. I expect an apology.

I did not call you an idiot - I said what you're saying is idiotic - which it is. You have a problem with accepting refugees fleeing their homeland. I will not offer an apology for simply pointing out your hypocrisy. It's obvious that you're just upset because I've called you out on the hypocrisy. If you want to be pissed at someone why not be mad at the racist idiot you voted for? He didn't even mention the Jews on International Holocaust Remembrance Day - on purpose!!!

>Trump’s ban did not include any of the Muslim-majority countries where the Trump Organization holds business interests. (such as Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkey, the U.A.E. and Azerbaijan) surely you see the significance of this???
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>First of all, it is not a Muslim ban otherwise, as you pointed out above, there would be more than Obama's list of 7 countries that would be included in the moratorium on travel to the US. As far as Trump's business interests go, this list was originally compiles by Obama. Trump is no longer involved in the business and his interests extend to the entire world - way more that Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Turkey.

It is a Muslim ban. Trump called it that - Spicer called it that. That's what it does and that's what it is. He said all though his campaign that he would do something bigoted like this and now he's gone and done it.

Obama didn't ban refugees or ban everyone from these 7 countries though did he? I not saying these 7 countries don't have terrorists - I'm just stating that not everyone in those countries is a terrorist or should be treated as one.

>Lets examine the attacks since 9/11 shall we? Why don't you poke though each of those and tell me where they call came from?
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>Why don't you?

I already did - none of those involved in ANY of those came from the 7 countries on the ban list.

>Cause not a one came from a country on Trump's list.
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>You must mean Obama's list because that is who originally came up with the list of those 7 countries.

Obama didn't do what Trump did though.
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