>Will spare ya'll (southern speak) the gory details of why I need a form that can not be seen, except that I have the need to take focus from several forms before routine1. Would like to have a generic invisible1 form. Before routine1 I would "invisible1.show()". Then after the routine "invisible1.release()".
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>Set the invisible.Height = 0, but the blue bar still shows. Any ideas?

Made form invisible1 not visible, by setting the left and top properties to minus numbers. That works well - but (there is always a but), when "invisible1.show()", the form current1 is still active. Can forms with negative top and left be active? The whole point was to make form current1 not the active form before routine1. But after invisible1.show(), current1 is still active.

Any thoughts - Brenda