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John Ryan
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>Perhaps you recall when Obama promised that under the ACA if you like your insurance, you can keep it? When that turned out not to be true, the White House said he "misspoke" while others called him a liar.
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>In the Obama example, this statement was a very important intended message of reassurance for Americans. So if it's not true- then perhaps an apology is indicated.

Hope this doesn't ruin our new-found truce :)

But there are two items that prove, as much as can be proven, that Obama lied.

One (that I've mentioned many times) is Obama's admission, during an documented discussion with Eric Cantor back in 2010 on C-SPAN, that somewhere between five and nine million people would lose their plans. He defended it with a statement that most would get "better plans". That turned out to be partly true but certainly not substantially true. But regardless, this interview occurred during the period where Obama was saying, "If you like your doctor, if you like your plans, etc." I truly do not understand how anyone can honestly describe this as anything other than a campaign lie.

The second is the report in the Wall Street Journal back in late 2013 - with sources from 2 White House senior advisors - that Obama's policy advisors and his campaign advisors had been in hot conflict for years over his "if you like your doctor" promise. His policy advisors recommended he back off that talk, while his campaign advisors recommended he continue with the narrative.

Remember, the Obama White House had to clean up "mis-statements" on more than one occasion. OK, a realist might say that every president, every politician runs into that. But that's the promise Obama made in 2008 - that he was above all that. He was wrong.
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