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31/05/2017 23:05:37
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., Nouvelle Zélande
 
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>>Yeah those guys from Yale were not vague - but ok fair enough. I should say "based solely on his words and actions he appears to me and almost everyone else in the world including mental health experts to most likely be mentally unstable" instead of "he is mentally unstable".

I did some checking up on "those guys from Yale" for a number of reasons. First, they're referred to as "mental health professionals" rather than MDs or psychiatrists. IME that term includes many people who aren't qualified to make any diagnosis, let alone a diagnosis based on MSM reporting. I was concerned that this might be a cynical "appeal to authority" fallacy, relying on public belief in "mental health professional" opinion even if they're not qualified to diagnose at all.

Second, I was astounded to read "Dr Gartner's" comment "This notion that you need to personally interview someone to form a diagnosis actually doesn’t make a whole lotta sense. For one thing, research shows that the psychiatric interview is the least statistical (sic) reliable way to make a diagnosis."

For anybody who understands how psychiatry operates and has to operate, this would be an astonishing non sequitur as well as a defiant deviation from professional code- if you are a psychiatrist. Or even a clinical psychologist who is qualified to make a diagnosis. Which it turns out "Dr Gartner" is not. He's a retired psychotherapist, a perfect caricature of the "armchair psychologist" who thinks he can diagnose from afar.

Meanwhile the expert opinion seems unified. From Paul Appelbaum MD, the Elizabeth K. Dollard Professor of Psychiatry, Medicine and Law, and Director, Division of Law, Ethics and Psychiatry at Columbia: "[Remote assessments are] so likely to be wrong, so likely to be harmful to that person, and so likely to discourage people from seeking psychiatric treatment, that psychiatrists should just not engage in that behaviour.

From the Royal College of Psychiatrists in the UK: "We want to be positioned in the public mind as being a calm, authoritative voice, and speculating on the mental health of celebs does exactly the opposite. It’s usually also facile and stating the obvious, unless it’s based on real, serious, inside information; in which case you should and will be struck off before nightfall. And deserve to be.

Bravo the Brits. Speculating is the correct word. Facile and stating the obvious unless based on inside information that you should not be broadcasting. Sheesh, leaking and anonymous public hits may be all the rage in the US along with legions of armchair experts, but you're in big trouble if the MDs (or nurses or judiciary or police or military) discard their ethics and professional codes to join the fun. So far, so good.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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