>Which is the irony: the US already has single payer care in many communities via Medicaid and once you hit 65, but it's the easily underwritten part in the middle creating all the ructions and costing a fortune.

Again, the broad brush doesn't work here.
People who can afford normal care- broken bones - e.g. my recent toe calamity- and sinus issues should just pay for them. They should take catastrophic insurance for expenses over their limits.

For those who can't afford normal care we need something.
I suspect that here in the US that will vary by state and that's a good thing.
I probably have more in common with someone in London than someone in Oklahoma. Those Oklahomans should decide what's best for themselves.


Seniors are a different matter and talking about them while talking about 45 year olds just muddies things.