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ACLU is with Trump :)
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>>>>>Putting Nazi's on the same moral plane here as those protesting them is not right. The fact that racism is so embedded into into our society that you are unable to grasp the significance of having monuments to traitors and slave owning racists or forcing black children to go to a school named after one of these dirtbags is disturbing.
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>>>Trump pointed out that both Washington and Jefferson were slave owners. By your logic, any monument or reference to those traitors and slave owning racists should be erased, including currency presumably, while forcing black children to go to a school associated with those vicious racist founding fathers, or even being expected to learn about them, is disturbing.
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>>Except one statue is of the guy who was a traitor and tried to destroy the country that the other two created and was willing to fight for the side that wanted to keep slaves. Do you understand the difference here? You don't see statues of Hitler in Germany do you? Yet everyone seems to remember the guy....geeeze man. The traitor could of been a general for the good guys if he wanted - but he did not he picked the wrong side.
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>Victor, history is not there for you to love/admire or to hate. It's there to learn from.

No one is learning about history from statues anymore than they're learning it from Trump University. Take the offensive racist statue and put it in a a museum somewhere or something.

>Were you aware that Lee's sons all decided to fight for the South? Do you really think Lee would have fought against his sons? I'm not defending Lee or defending the South, but pointing out that his situation was a bit complicated.

Ok - but at the end of the day him and his sons were traitors and picked the side wanting slavery. However complicated the situation was it's simple to conclude it was the wrong choice regardless.

>Tearing down statues for expedient political reasons is just plain childish. What's next, burning books by Mark Twain and Kurt Vonnegut?

I disagree - I think it's a step towards healing the racial divide in our country...a necessary step. Turning it into something political is a problem though. I doubt those wanting to remove a racist symbol from a public place would not want to burn books. Besides burning books in 2017 is rather pointless - who reads books anymore anyway? they turn on computer or tablet and point and click and read ebooks online. I do not see a path where removing a racist symbol from a public place leads to a book burning of Mark Twain novels.
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