>>>>>Really ? That's new for me. The guillotine is doing overtime ? ;)
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>>>LOL. It was an attempted convoluted joke in the wilderness. Despite popular belief to the contrary, France's Declaration of Rights from 1789 specifically commits to the presumption of innocence until convicted, in Article 9:
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>>>Tout homme étant présumé innocent jusqu’à ce qu’il ait été déclaré coupable, s’il est jugé indispensable de l’arrêter, toute rigueur qui ne serait pas nécessaire pour s’assurer de sa personne doit être sévèrement réprimée par la loi.
>>>
>>>The second piece is interesting also. ;-) The constitutional standing of Article 9 has been strongly affirmed by French judiciary more than once.
>>>
>>>In contrast, there's no such mention in the US constitution despite popular belief that US constitutional rights and protections are the envy of the world.
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>>After all the US Constitution is just a secondhand copy of the French one.
>
>Hmm let's see.. we did ours in 1789, the first (post monarchy) French version came along in 1791.
>The current French version came along in 1958.
>
>Allons, enfants!

Really ?

http://www.conseil-constitutionnel.fr/conseil-constitutionnel/francais/la-constitution/la-constitution-du-4-octobre-1958/declaration-des-droits-de-l-homme-et-du-citoyen-de-1789.5076.html