>>>They are spinning you like a top.
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>>You know it's possible for people to hold more than one thought in their head at a time Bill. And seeing how you voted for Trump I'd say you've been spun like a top for sometime now. You can't ignore Trump's racism and misogyny (or complete incompetence for that matter) by changing the subject every time it comes up. I agree that it can be a distraction from the real issues though - it's a shame we have such an idiot for a president that this happens.
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>Victor, sorry, but the mistake here is concluding that since Bill voted for Trump, he was spun like a top.

Ok I'm not gong to get into a debate about it (yet again) -- but there is simply no practical realistic logical pattern of thinking that would lead a clear-thinking person with any reasonable level of intelligence to actually think Trump would be a good unifying president or even a decent human being ...and would more than likely be a danger to the citizens of not only the USA but the rest of the world. Since Bill is a smart guy yet still voted for Trump, he was somehow spun like a top and/or tricked and/or brainwashed with Russian propaganda into voting for a person with the qualifications of a box of crackers and the intellect of an ice cube. Now I can certainly see why a person would have difficulty accepting and/or owning up to such a thing but that doesn't really matter now does it? Everyone wants to jump up and down and say don't call people out on that because that's how the Dems lost to begin with. Yeah well I don't buy that for a minute - it's because the American voters were stupid and/or naive enough to be tricked (or spun like a top). This has become a rather circular discussion on this subject. And as Bill did point out - it's a distraction because the election is over and now there are issues that have to be dealt with now - like how to babysit the president so he doesn't say too much stupid crap or start WW3 with a damn tweet or disrupt the functioning of our government and government agencies to the point they are ineffective -- and you can see the damage he's already caused in just a few months.

>I don't always see eye to eye with Bill, but he's "his own man" and I don't think too many people pull the proverbial wool over his eyes.
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>Now JR is a different story - more and more every day I see him being influence by the PA Crew. :)

JR didn't vote in our election as he's not a USA citizen though right? So what he thinks doesn't really matter in this context. It does matter what people in other countries (especially the leaders) think of the USA and our president though - and it would appear that few have a favorable opinion including our allies. Seeing this coming was plain as day.