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20/11/2017 21:50:47
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., Nouvelle Zélande
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>>>It's not just a matter of jobs, it's how much do they pay, how much do things cost, can you afford healthcare, is it possible to afford a house,food to eat, education for my kids even if I have a job.
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>Bill made the point about an ICU nurse needing to drive Uber to pay for a tire. What's your explanation for that?

The GOP taking money from her to give tax breaks to the rich and big corporations (aka trickle down economics) and the cost of her health insurance.

>>>The GOP's trickle down economics has failed on that, and the GOP's attempts to take away healthcare from 10's of millions of Americans doesn't help this out either.
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>The "trickle down" term is pretty bad, carrying all sorts of connotations. But reducing corporate taxes has had predictable effects elsewhere. Yes, there's a good chance that grasping 1%ers will simply scoop it all for themselves in the US,

uhhh no. There is a 100% chance of this happening - this has been proven over the past 40 years...so first you need to understand that.

>but meantime the US does have one of the heavier corporation taxation regimes that does incentivize offshoring of jobs and profit accumulation in foreign lower-tax locales. Surely you want to encourage corporations to repatriate profits and pay tax rather than hoarding in a foreign shell company?

That is another problem all together. Look if a company is making billions of dollars they don't need a tax break or incentives. This mickey-mouse with the state incentives is realllly stupid. Do some research on that and see how it's not only being abused, but that it doesn't pay-off for the states who provide the incentives either.

>You can achieve that by increasing the taxman's reach to include the shell company's revenue or by reducing taxation so there's less incentive to hoard elsewhere.

Yeah and see how the GOP votes on such things.

>Either way, bringing the $ home is a win and if it allows US manufacturers to bring back jobs offshored by previous generations of 1%ers, there's no victim, just lots of juicy jobs. Now that's the theory and as I observed, I agree (sadly) that it's very possible that 1%ers will simply book it as a bonus for themselves.

Those manufacturing jobs you say were lost to overseas were not lost because of taxes, they were lot due to automation - another thing the GOP will not admit (because they do not believe in numbers or statistics). And again it's not 'very possible' the 1%'s will keep the money for themselves, there is a 100% chance.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/11/15/1715979/-Here-s-video-of-a-room-full-of-CEOs-admitting-they-won-t-invest-their-Republican-tax-cuts
https://www.salon.com/2017/11/17/ceos-admit-they-wont-create-jobs-with-their-tax-cut-money

oh and here is what the republicans have admitted to recently - they have to give the tax breaks to the rich so they will keep giving them donations and can thus stay in power...aka admit they are worthless scumbags who are not doing things for the American people like they were elected to to (ya know...their JOB) -- but instead doing things to benefit themselves at the cost of screwing the American people.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gary-cohn-tax-cut-ceos-donors_us_5a049571e4b0f76b05c4249e
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