>>This thinking that its ok to set a torch to all the progress we've made as a nation and our environment in order to move forward is short sighted and stupid.
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>Progress exists in the eye of the beholder.
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>Jeff Bezos' net worth just topped $100B.
>The Dow topped 24K today.
>Progress, right?
>But for whom?
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Put me on the list. Luck or skill - We made it to the top 5-6% of income (which is not all that much) . I give most of the credit to my parents who grew up during the depression and sacrificed so much that their kids could live a better life than they did. I also give credit to my wife of 53 years who always stood by me especially in the "poorer" part of " richer or poorer".


>My son and daughter-in-law are both hard-working professional engineers with high standings in their profession.
>At their age, with a stay-at-home wife, I was able to put two children through private colleges and still provide for a comfortable retirement (one of these days, I REALLY will retire)
>With two incomes, they can do neither.
>Their friends are in similar positions.

I certainly agree. We have 3 sons and 6 grandkids. I really don't see how they get by.
On the "REALLY" retire - Never, never, never. I haven't had a "day" job in 5 years so I can't use the "I have to go to work" excuse to avoid doing things that I really don't want to do.

>I have many retired friends who worked hard all their lives and now have to choose between going to the MD or replacing a tire because their housing and medical costs are consuming an increasingly large chunk of their retirement incomes.
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>Many of these people voted for Trump because the "progress" you talk about has been negative for them.
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>short sighted and stupid?
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>What was anyone offering that sounded better?