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>Putting someone in the lost cause voter category - well, about all I can say is that pretty much sums up the HRC attitude, and is part of the reason why HRC lost. Enough people were tired of her attitude.

As I said, I've pulled the R lever twice during my life.

The first time I pulled it for Ike when he ran against Stevenson the second the time.
I was in college then and the reaction from my D friends on the campus - who had convinced themselves that Adlai, the darling of the intellectual left, couldn't lose - was even more heated than Victor's response here.

I'm certainly not comparing Trump to Ike - they're not even from the same planet - but on the other hand when I compare HRC to someone as classy as Adlai Stevenson- who against anyone but Ike would have had my enthusiastic support- I'm reminded again of how far both parties have veered off course.

Responses like Victor's are common. My dear friend Mike still can't accept the fact that people could be so stupid as to elect Obama twice.
It took me almost a year to accept the fact that Bush had been re-elected.
If Victor is as smart as I think he is, he'll eventually start looking at why so many people disagreed with him.

That works.
Back in 1960, after losing badly twice to Ike, the party got its act together and nominated JFK.
Now - well, let's just say that was a great moment for me and my fellow D's.