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>..but aside from that I suggest you read more on what the framers were thinking, particularly Hamilton and get back to me on this later. If you look into it I"m sure you'll come to the same conclusion as I did - they did not do their job.

Victor, if you want to talk about presidents trampling the Constitution, I'll be more than happy to mention the specifics of a few presidents. The list from Barack Obama is very long indeed.

It is one thing to grant amnesty...and another thing worse to issue work permits...and another thing even worse to force the U.S. Treasury's hand on those granted amnesty.

Barack Obama's immigration actions represent one of the most blatantly unconstitutional actions in our lifetimes.