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>>>>Ambigous language everywhere -
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>>Yes. Especially the word "solicit" that means to ask for or try to obtain. Intent is enough to satisfy this definition. Did Trump JR try to obtain dirt on HRC? Difficult to claim otherwise in view of his reaction to the offer of dirt on HRC from a Russian lawyer: "I love it."
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>Truthful hyperbole or sales talk... No law requires the "I love it." to follow the same rules of truth a witness has to keep in mind in court or elsewhere.

Trump Jr.‘s decision to take the meeting in and of itself violated campaign finance law, which does not require you to actually get anything useful from foreigners. In other words, the mere fact that Trump Jr. asked for information from a Russian national about Clinton constituted a federal crime.

Statute: 52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510

'A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.'
“No person shall knowingly solicit, accept, or receive from a foreign national any contribution or donation prohibited by (this law)”
"A solicitation is an oral or written communication that, construed as reasonably understood in the context in which it is made, contains a clear message asking, requesting, or recommending that another person make a contribution, donation, transfer of funds, or otherwise provide anything of value."

...so Trump Jr. was clearly soliciting information that he knew was coming from a foreign source, The solicitation itself is why it doesn’t matter if Trump Jr. actually got useful information. The part that’s illegal is trying to acquire dirt on Clinton from a foreign source, not successfully acquiring it. And his statements admits that he did, in fact, solicit this information.

In other words - he's screwed.

>>My preference is to look at the intent of the law. The intent of that law is to prevent foreign interests or cash corrupting the electoral process to obtain a result of benefit to the foreigner. IMHO Trump JR was naive and silly, because he did not need to meet the lawyer personally to get her dirt. A mistake HRC didn't make when she paid for Russians to tell pee pee stories about Trump.
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>HRC showed more respect for established ways to circumvent abovementioned intent.
>But Trump style seems to encompass a more direct way of Teflonitis ;-)

Trump Jr, like is father, is an idiot with no understanding of the government or laws. (and/or think he's above the law).
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