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14/08/2018 23:30:09
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
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>>>What I've been saying is that voter suppression is a large, widespread problem here.
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>There's certainly a huge noise about it, including in Ohio where the state's plans were so shocking and suppressive that activists took the state all the way to the Supreme Court- where the litigants' clamor was comprehensively struck down.
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>My grandfather used to say that "empty vessels make the most sound" which certainly has proven true about the litigants bewailing voter suppression in Ohio.
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>>>You seem to just want to take one tiny tiny piece of a huge puzzle and think that speaks for the whole picture.
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>Yes but iwhat you call a tiny piece of a huge puzzle, is the only credible evidence to hand. Apart from Trump's investigative commission shut down by intractible states and lawfare, this week I read a paper from somebody trying to quantify electoral integrity nationally. He struggled to get any useful stats from more than 20 states and of those, most were at a cost or with sufficient hurdles that fair analysis was impossible.
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>Maybe you have access to similar facts from other states: as always, more than happy to change opinion in the face of credible evidence. But what you mustn't allow, is for people to shut down efforts to quantify their claims before hollering that lack of quantification means their proclamations are impregnable. In fact, what it really proves is that some groups don't want their claims examined too closely. If they're so sure, why would they block collation of mountains of evidence they insist is there? No reasonable person can be unmoved by proof that (for example) illegals voting is limited to only a few hundred per state, or that cleaning rolls definitely prevents some citzens from voting, especially if there's a racial element as you also insist. But ask questions like that, and generally you're treated to a rising tsunami of angry rhetoric without a skerrick of reasonable evidence.
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>>>wooooh - hold on a sec,,,, Are you saying you've not heard of single report of voter suppression in the USA??? Are you serious dude??? WOW. Case closed -- you're clueless.
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>I started the paragraph "I can see what's happening in Ohio" and you thought that means the whole USA? Yep, case closed, you've proven I'm clueless almost as comprehensively as you proved your claims about voter suppression.

Yeah you been saying all along that there is no voter suppression here in the USA. And wait times of six hours were reported for early voting in Franklin County Ohio, leading to people leaving the line without voting - which is another form of voter suppression right there. And geeee Idon't you wonder where all the long wait times are with few polling locations when this happens? Or what the demographics are where that happens? See if you bothered to look into any of this you'd see a slew of problems.
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