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19/08/2018 21:54:54
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
 
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>>Why don't you just google "voter suppression in usa" ????

What makes you so certain I haven't? As it happens, the answer to your question is that it yields a useless barrage of tiresomely familiar angry rhetoric without an iota of evidence to back it up, just repetition over and over that this or that is causing voter suppression.

When rare actual examples are found, the pattern seems to be an emotive appeal that becomes less compelling as the full facts are revealed.

A good example is a group of 10 retired nuns in their 80s and 90s turned away from a voting booth in an Indiana primary in 2008, after the state introduced requirement for photo ID.

People were upset and a lawsuit was filed, with the Indiana Supreme Court subsequently ruling that the state's requirement for photo ID is legal.

What the court must have reviewed, is that Indiana offers the usual absentee/mail ballots for people older than 65... which provision apparently was used by the other 90 retired nuns in the convent. There's also the usual provisional votes if you turn up without ID, as well as free IN photo ID available up to and including voting day.

The court seems to hold that if you rock up without ID you may be prevented from a regular ballot, but there's other options. If people weren't offered those options, that's a failure of training and management for booth personnel, not a reason to throw the whole thing out or screech that the state is prejudiced against Catholics. Ironically in this case it was a younger nun who turned them away, so I'd hope she did her best to help her sisters.

My unease is that these nuns had probably voted the same way for up to 70 years or more in some cases, rccking up at the polling booth in days when electoral integrity was a given. It is very sad, but the convent's solution was to help them get ID before the federal elections if they want to vote in person. In addition, Indiana lawmakers are elected so if the citizenry feels too much unease, they can effect change by usual democratic means. I think I probably have more association with Indiana than you and my experience is that those decent folk are not going to stand by watching fellow citizens being suppressed.

I'm going to say it: the whole voter suppression meme seems to involve aggressive negativity directed towards others. That may have become the norm in some bubbles, but your average US citizen is a decent person, same as decent people all over the world.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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