>>Now - as for Mitt -- I assume you're talking about the Massachusetts manufacturing jobs lost ?

?? AFAIK Massachusetts isn't a centrally managed economy. I was referring to Mitt's time at Bain when he embraced the thought that the only purpose of business is to maximize returns to shareholders. By this logic, traditional obligations to employees, customers or society are only relevant in determining maximum return. That's a stepping stone to selling employee pursuit of happiness, which is what Bain spearheaded.

But rather than my trying to convince you, try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1pPFlcGav4

In finding that clip, ironically I found both Romney and Obama advocating many of the things that Trump says today. The main difference is that there was no fake news immediately labeling the comments as lies or finding the worst possible interpretation when those two said it. You may have noticed an incidental example in that short clip. Sheesh, Romney even said that the foreign account deficit to China needs to be reined in and jobs brought home, quoting his own experience to show he knows how to do it. Ask a scoundrel to catch a scoundrel has logic, except that he wasn't elected so we'll never know what he might have done. But here's a thought: had the foreign account deficit been tackled a lot earlier or the Bain thinking and its proponents subjected to society's scorn rather than treated like royalty, there might never have been a President Trump.

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