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20/09/2018 16:10:53
John Ryan
Captain-Cooker Appreciation Society
Taumata Whakatangi ..., New Zealand
 
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Politics
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Elections
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
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Message ID:
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JR>>OK. What's the gist of corporate tax cuts? Virtuous, leading to economic growth? Or a gift to the 1% at the expense of the working and middle classes?
JR>>>(Careful- might pay to remember who else might have advocated corporate tax cuts)

VA>>Those corporations did not need the tax cut -- and they are not giving any of the money back to the workers and middle class and the Trump admin is rolling back all the protections for the consumer.

Your answer that would be called lie number 2,764,245 if Trump said it, is not only inaccurate but doesn't answer my point- which is that Trump is not the first POTUS to advocate corporate tax cuts. As an example, Obama also promoted tax cuts to stimulate the economy, but it got mostly stalled in Congress by obstructionists. Obama got applauded by the same sorts who now cower expecting the sky to fall when Trump does it. Despite economic measures now reaching new records, still they cower.

>>uhhh no. They're stupid when it comes to politics. And speaking of stupid -- how Trump has handled NK is indeed stupid as is how he has handled trade. We got nothing from NK and we're in the middle of a trade war for no reason lol.

Gotta say Victor, you need to look for alternative sources of news. So far the Chicken Littles are woefully wrong about tariffs and NK. Even a superficial understanding confirms there's grounds for tarrifs against China and today I see even NYT acknowledging that after the Chicken Littles really went to town over his Iran actions, they also seem to be working so far. Meanwhile NK agrees to no nuclear tests, supervised deconstruction of a test site and a joint bid for the Olympics with South Korea! Compare that to protestations of imminent war in the lead-up and early months of Trump's administration. Maybe for fun the Trump organization should announce a hotel on a pristine NK beach so heads can explode "told you so- he doesn't care about America, everything he does is for himself!!!!!" Meanwhile in September 2018 there's a whole series of chronic disasters all heading "dismayingly" well towards resolution.

>>Ahh yes - back to the old fake news bit. So CNN, NBC,CBS, ABC, BBC, ITA, FRA, BRA, ESP, The New York Times, Time Magazine, USA Today, The Washington Post, etc etc etc etc -- they're ALL FAKE! Dude do you understand how dumb this makes you sound? What happened man? They all of a sudden became fake when we got our fake president? ..and only infowars and foxnews are not fake? And all of a sudden Trump is Mr. Truth and Bob Woodward is a liar? What's wrong with you man? Coooome on!

Here;'s what that rant is in response to:

>>By results, you mean the huge noise made by CNN and the rest of the far left? Maybe check out CNN's ratings to confirm that people aren't as stupid as elites might like. As for Mitt: he was one of the earliest proponents of a unified healthcare funding scheme, in Massachusetts. Would you have agreed with that?

I think your response just about sums up your "logic" in these matters, misrepresenting almost everything I said. So once again we reach the point where I must say that I enjoy listening to considered logic and especially enjoy altering my viewpoint when somebody mounts a compelling argument, but spiteful rants aren't very interesting.
"... They ne'er cared for us
yet: suffer us to famish, and their store-houses
crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to
support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act
established against the rich, and provide more
piercing statutes daily, to chain up and restrain
the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and
there's all the love they bear us.
"
-- Shakespeare: Coriolanus, Act 1, scene 1
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